The Holy Fool: El Tonto Por Cristo | Joshua David Jordan

Updated:

Oct 6, 2026

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Published:

Oct 6, 2026

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What does it mean to be a fool for Christ? Honestly, it sounds like a contradiction. Those who know Christ are meant to be wise—not fools.

But what if following Christ faithfully means looking foolish in the eyes of the world? For those who seek to conform their lives to Christ rather than the ways of the world, being called a fool might actually be a compliment.

Joshua David Jordan joins Dave for a wide-ranging conversation about holy fools, monasticism, prayer, art, miracles, and what it means to live in alignment with reality—even if it means looking like a fool.

When you’re finished listening, I strongly encourage you to watch his masterpiece film, El Tonto Por Cristo (Spanish for The Fool for Christ), please see their official website by clicking here.

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(Timestamps below.)

0:00 — Joshua David Jordan tells his story

6:20 — Fathers and Sons

10:35 — I Arise Today—does how we begin the day matter?

17:00 — The value of simple prayer

21:15 — What is a fool for Christ?

24:00 — A holy fool feels like a contradiction—how do you explain the holy fool?

26:45 — Dave used to be a vagabond and relates to the lack of constraints Holy Fools have

34:00 — Monks, Mount Athos and the value of monasticism for our modern world

47:15 — Monasticism shows us another way of life is possible

50:15— Art as an apologetic for truth (when we create art we imitate the creator)

59:45 — Just make GOOD art—Why Christians shouldn’t try to make “Christian” art

1:02:00 — Art is prayer

1:05:45 — Sweet smelling relics—wishful thinking or mystical reality?

1:12:00 — Believe again—believing in miracles without demanding an explanation

1:18:15 — The greatest lesson Josh David Jordan learned about monasticism

1:29:00 — Closing questions about reality

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